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AWESOME WORK GROUP 2 - Our hard work paid off - HD's all round - YIPPEE!!!! Jenxxxx

Hi everyone,

=== OK, it is gone lol....submitted and done - thanks everyone, working with you all has shown me that group work does not have to be a nightmare experience. You have all done an amazing job. I am glad you have enjoyed the wiki experience :) Fingers crossed we get a great mark - we most certainly have put in a LOT of work on it. ===

Jen
Firstly thank you Lisa I have received the PDF and about to submit. Secondly, thank you for the wiki experience Jen. I feel a little more savvy when it comes to all these new onlline experiences. Next I just need to download inspiration and learn that program (for some reason it will not download to my pc, still working on that). Finally a big Thank you to everyone in group 2. It has been great working with everyone and a really positive group work experience.

I wish everyone well for the remainder of their studies and maybe we will cross paths again one day.

Good luck, Leanne

Hello again, I just wanted to thank Jen for my first Wiki experience. YOU ROCK Christine

Hello All
The assignment looks great... can't believe there is someone trying to bone in on your great work in the last five days... I've been there since the beginning but would never think to ride on the sweat and tears of others. That is why I am not submitting this assignment. More focus next time I hope. This assignment has to get a HD. Well done. Thanks for a better group experience than last time. I know you were all a little concerned about me not submitting would have an affect on your marks. It would only affect your marks if I submitted a pathetic assignment and was the random member picked. Here's to our future in education Cheers Christine Ploetz

OK EVERYONE, I AM ABOUT TO SEND THE PDF TO YOU ALL. I HAVE DONE THE FINAL EDIT. THERE WAS A COUPLE SPELLING MISTAKES AND 'VERENIKINA' WAS SPELT 4 DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGHOUT THE ASSIGNMENT SO I HAVE FIXED THAT UP. ANYTHING ELSE... WELL IT IS TOO LATE NOW!! SO ONCE YOU RECEIVE YOU CAN SUBMIT WHENEVER YOU ALL WANT! IF YOU DON'T RECEIVE THE EMAIL LET ME KNOW! GOOD LUCK TO US ALL!!!!! LISA (21/5 @ 12.34PM)

Hi Everyone,

Wow just came on here and the final works look amazing, great job!! you all should be very proud......if anything else needs done please let me know. Thanks everyone...Claire 21/05

Hi Jen, I will take the track changes off before I convert to PDF. I will then email the PDF to everyones UNE email address. That way it will be easier to submit- rather than having to save it off the wiki and risk saving the wrong file. So check your email after about 1pm tomorrow and it should be there. If there are any problems email me on monalisastone@gmail.com (this is the one that I check about a billion times a day as all my RSS feeds go there). We are soooooooo close.... i can almost see the fireworks!!! Lisa (21/5 @ 12.14am)

Hi everyone, just wanted to say it looks fantastic, and thank you to everyone for all your hard work!!! I will not be able to get online today, it is my little guys 3rd birthday & I am already covered in icing!, I will hop online once the crazy is all over tonight Thanks again everyone, I have really enjoyed this experience and a lot of it comes down to such a great group of ladies! Cheers, Ellie (21/5 8am)

Hi guys,

All looks good to me....I am confused by the stuff in the boxes on the right....do they go away?? Will the final version be emailed or put on here. I just don't want to accidently submit a wrong version! In my state at the moment, anything could happen!

Jen 20/5 11.08 pm

Hi Lisa,

I have just had another look through and there was some inconsistancy with in-text referencing. For example some had pp.xx while others only had p.x for the page numbers. I have gone through and changed them all to just p.x (only 1 p)as per APA refrencing guide. (hope you know what I am talking about) There were also a few in-texts with multipule authors that did not have a space between the name and the & symbol so I have corrected these. Other than that it all looks good to me. I hope that you understand what I was trying to say as I am running on a lack of sleep and words just aren't coming out properly at the moment.

Leanne 20/5 @ 9.39pm

OK so I have just edited it again. Thankyou for the references Michelle- I felt really bad asking again. There was a few commas, etc where there was meant to be fullstops etc in the reference lists that i have fixed. Let me know if anyone sees anything else wrong with them. (I hate referencing!!!!) I have fixed up the italic part. It prob was something to do with the formatting Michelle as in the last edit i fixed the single spacing in the reference list and now it was gone again. So on that note, let me know if there are any issues in this doc and then i will have to convert to pdf and see if that stops the prob. I have also put the q3 rl on a new page as per michelle's suggestion. I will check again later tonight to see if there are any more comments otherwise i will next check tomoz just after midday and do the final up and email to you all. Lisa (20/5 @ 8.09pm)

Hi girls, I changed the references to how the ASO taught me to do them. If they way they are is fine with your other assignments thats cool with me. I just wan't sure. The mind map still doesn't show up properly on mine but sound like it's the way my mac converts stuff. Otherwise it looks great! :-) I would just like to thank everyone from making this group experience so good and for all your hard work. This is my first time at uni and at this kind of group work and you have all made it enjoyable. Good luck to everyone for your future adventures! Cheers, Rachel

Hi Lisa

Because you asked so nicely I have fixed the references again!!! I agree with someones previous comment that the refernence list should be single line spacing and could we have the ref list for q3 start on a new page. Also shouldn't all the text titles be in italics, I thought I did this but I think it's been lost in the formatting somewhere (haven't changed it incase others disagree). I will read over again tonight but hopefully won't have anything else to add.

I am unavailable all day tomorrow so if you need me to do anything else it will have to be tonight. I will check back tonight after the kids are in bed.

As I said in SL I have really enjoyed this groupwork experience. Thanks everyone and goodluck with your future studies. I hope to see you in other units along the way.

Cheers Michelle

Hi everyone, Thanks for the feedback. To be honest, I didn't check the editing in the essays I jist compiled them alltogether. So in the new doc: 1. I have fixed the single spacing in the reference list for q3. Thanks Leanne. 2. With the student number issue, the reason why i have put the group is because we can't really not put peoples student numbers on it, so when we talked to yvonne the other night about participation she said to just put group 2 and she will take it from there. She knows exactly who is in group 2 and who has participated. Let me know if you all disagree. 3. Rachel, I have copied and pasted the new doc you did. There was a few punctuation things missing (e.g. full-stops) that I have fixed. 4. I also noticed when i read through it all that the referencing was different in q3 so have fixed a few things there too. 5. Michelle, I give you permission to kill me and rachel after i tell you this- Can you pretty pretty please fix the references in the new doc???? When i copied and pasted rachels changes naturally yours weren't there and I can't see your changes in the track changes. SO SO SO SORRY!! 6. Can you guys please read through it all and see if there is any punctuation, grammar, layout, etc mistakes that i have missed. 7. I was thinking that maybe any comments or things people want changed- if they can post a message before midday tomorrow (being saturday). That way i can do any final editting when my daughter has a sleep and email you all the pdf by 1.30pm. This way you can all either submit sat arvo or sun. Thanks, Lisa (20/5 @ 1pm)

Hi Guys,

I have opened the document and the maps are showing as A3 in mine. It all looks good but if I can make a few suggestions.

1. I may be wrong but I thought that the line spacing in a reference list should be single spacing??? 2. I know Yvonne said we did not have to include names but I think we should still put student numbers, like last semester. (I get a little nervous submitting an assessment with no student no. for identification)

Let me know what you all think. Leanne

Hi Michelle, I can see the Mind maps, no problem here. The whole thing looks fantastic. Ellie

Hi Lisa

Great job. I have fixed the missing references as requested. The mindmaps opened OK on my computer so maybe it was just Rachel's computer,. Can everyone else see them OK? I haven't copied and pasted Rachel's amendments, I didnt want to mess too much with your document lol.

Cheers Michelle

Hey Lisa, You have done a great job it looks awesome. The character spacing is still bugging me though, its still all over the place on question 1. I have retyped that section and thought maybe you could just cut and paste? I did make minor changes as I was going through, 1. There was a fragmented sentence that I took out 2. Changed the in text references as per ASO suggestions 3. There were a couple of spelling mistakes I changed 4. I also changed one part to a new paragraph cause it started on a new topic. Hope this is ok. Sorry if I'm being painful lol. Also, when I downloaded the document the mind map didn't come up as A3, I only got half of it on A4 then a blank page. Maybe it's my computer, just thought I'd ask. Cheers, Rachel

Hi everyone, I have just done up a kinda-final for everyone to look at. What I have done: 1. taken track changes off so we can see how it all looks 2. taken out the word count on title page- since we are WAY over prob 3. I have just put 'Group 2'- when we were talking to Yvonne in SL the other night she said to just put group 2 and she will take it from there. 4. Have section-breaked it so that the mm can be on A3 landscape. 5. ﻿Put question number headings in 6. Added reference list for q3 as per what ellie posted on wiki the other night (whenever that was- lol). I have made 2 sep reference lists- 1 for each question as they are diff questions and in diff areas of compilation. 7. Added the rest of the game pdf pics in- i noticed some of the steps were missing from the last doc. 8. Had a play with the formatting and managed to decrease the spacing a bit between paragraphs. 9. Anything else I can't remember now!!!

P.s. Michelle- I haven't added the reference changes that you have just uploaded. Any chance of you doing that in the doc i am going to attach.

Any comments, things you don't like etc feel free to add here. Will convert to pdf and email to everyone once we are all happy. Lisa (19/5)

Hi

Thanks Jen for the ref info. I have added the missing references and Jen, Ellie's and my student number. Are we ready for Lisa to put this together as final document for submitting (I think it was Lisa)????? Maybe do a final check with tracked changes off and page layouts correct?

Thank goodness we are nearly there.

Cheers Michelle

Hi everyone, Sorry for not being online last night very busy day with our big interview for school next year I was able to have a quick look in the afternoon, before the email from Ashleigh was received, thankfully you were all on top of it! The latest draft looks great, good work ladies with all your editing. I agree Leanne, once the track change is removed we can all get a feel of the assignment, I am sure that with all the hard work it will be fantastic anyway My student number is 220068166 Thanks again - I have some free time tomorrow (yes trying to avoid my e-portfolio!), so feel free to let me know if anything else needs doing Cheers, Ellie

Hi Guys,

Not sure who is doing it, and I was scared to edit it with it the way it is.... Here are the references which I used.

Hendrick, J. 1990, Total Learning-Developmental Curriculum for the Young Child, 3rd edn, Merrill, Columbus. Ginsburg, H.P. & Opper S. 1988, Piaget’s Theory of Intellectual Development, 3rd edn, Prentice Hall, Englewood Cliffs. Moyles, J.R. 1989, Just Playing? The role and status of play in early childhood education, Open University Press, Milton Keynes. Shaffer, D.R.1989, Developmental Psychology-Childhood and Adolescence, 2nd edn, Brooks/Cole, Pacific Grove. Vialle, W., Lysaght, P., & Verenikina, I. 2005, Psychology for educators. Thomson, South Melbourne.

Jen also to avoid confusion with another edit so that I don't have to make another version just for my student number - whoever does it next can you just add it in 220077554


 * Hi everyone, [[file:group_2_assign+ver6.doc]] **
 * I have just been having a fiddle around with the line spacing after Rachel commented that she could not fix it. I think that by changing the font to Arial it is consistant throughout the whole assignment and it seems to have fixed the spacing i think. Maybe we will have to take track change off soon and have a look at the document as a whole. This may make it easier to pick up on any editing that still needs to be done. **
 * Did everyone get the email to say that the system will be down for part of the day on Saturday?? This will mean that we may not be able to submit until late Saturday or Sunday unless we are done to submit tomorrow night. Just thought i'd mention incase we did not all get the email. **
 * Leanne (19/5 at 4.55pm) **

Hello everyone,

What a job well done to all. I have made a few changes and added my student number. I have mainly made comments with a few grammatical changes here and there as I have not been present for most of the meetings. Let me know if there is anything else that I need to be doing.

Kylie (19/5 at 4.21pm)

Hi everyone

I just found a couple more errors that I have fixed. Thanks for everyone's input and editing. Hopefully we are nearly there. Jen there are 2 references that I don't have, Hendrick and Moyles(i think), do you have them. I think there should be a seperate ref list for the essay and the game as they are seperate questions.

Cheers Michelle



Hi Girls, I have done a bit of editing, you beat me to the formatting Leanne lol. I did that paraphrasing in the game and have changed it. I have inserted the game, it wouldn't insert the normal way so I had to add it as pictures. Let me know if this is ok. A few questions, the reference list is missing some references and is there a seperate one for the game? If not shouldn't it be placed at the end of the assignment? And does anyone know whats going on with the character spacing in the first part? There seem to be large and small spacing throughout the first essay, I tried to fix it but couldn't thought maybe it was my computer. You have all done an awesome job! Thank you to everyone. Cheers, Rachel

Hi everyone,

I have just gone through our complied assignment again and added a sentence into the child play section. If you think it is inappropriate or not required please either omit it or let me know and I can do it. Also there was a page number missing off a quote in the game section. I have read through the text and cannot find that exact quote, it appears to be parraphrased of page 26. I am not sure who added this bit in but if someone can confirm this just to make sure. I have also done a cover page for our group. I was not sure of everyones student numbers so if everyone wants to add their own student number to make sure they are correct. I have just used the same format that we used to submit group assessment last semester.

Let me know if anything else needs checking or doing.

Leanne

Hello all, I have just heard from Yvonne. Here is her response.

Hi Rachel, I have just emailed Ashleigh and explained that this is not possible - she has not been contributing and has signed up well after the fact. I am about to go to hospital - please let the others know. Yvonne

Good morning group 2,

Yes I received the same email from Ashleigh last night. I don't think it is fair that she come in now at the end when it is finished. Anyway will wait to hear from Yvonne on that matter. I have very quickly gone through this morning and done the editing such as header, line spacing, margins etc. Kid's are awake now so I will have to log off and get them ready for school. I have a meeting at my son's school this morning (we have just been advised Australia's most notorious peadaphile has just been moved into our suburb) but will be online around 11.30am and will go over and give it an edit where and if needed.

Thanks, Leanne

Hey girls,

I have emailed Yvonne and asked her to advise us on the Ashley situation. I don' think it is fair that she has just showed up now and wants to use our work to pass, we put in all the time for meetings, brainstorming and writing. I will let you know what she says. Would you like me to email Huy as well incase Yvonne doesn't answer due to her surgery? Michelle you have done a great job with the essay. I have some stuff on Vygotsky like promised but you seem to have covered it lol. I will have time tomorrow to go over it and do another edit if you like. Let me know if there's anything else you need done as I have tomorrow off.

Cheers, Rachel

Did everyone else get an email from Ashleigh saying she has just signed up to our group and wants to be part of this assignment???? Is that possible since it is due in 5days????

Yep, I got that email and was VERY surprised also....how can someone join now? We are finished?? I would not think this is fair.....I wonder if Yvonne knows? Perhaps we should email Yvonne and ask. What are everyone elses thoughts on it? Also Michelle, I have not read it yet, but this is what Yvonne wants, so that is what we give her...we want the marks - I certainly am not going to hold onto a few paragraphs if it means this. Each marker wants to see different things....that is totally OK :) Thanks so much for editing it! Jen

I agree- it ISN'T fair. What could she possibly do 4 days before it is due. I think yvonne should def be asked about this. Just read the draft Michelle- like what you have done. Good that you put internalising in too. I think you are also right with piaget and vygotsky considering that those 2 names seem to be all we have heard about all semester. will start hearing them in our sleep soon. Lisa (18/5) p.s. didn't see any initial errors ;-)

Hi everyone

Attached is a revised copy of the essay. I am sorry Jen, I did cut a bit of what you had written, only because of Yvonne's comments not because it was badly written. I think I have answered as per Yvonne's suggestions (not going to guarantee it though!!!!). Please speak up if you disagree. If anyone wants to add/change etc feel free. I have incorporated Piaget's and Vygotsky's theories a bit more which I believe is correct. I will be online until about 10.30 tonight and then again from midday tomorrow. Can someone please edit again as I know I will have made errors. Look forward to hearing everyones feedback and finishing this assignment.

Cheers Michelle (18/5 9.30pm)

Hi everyone,

So let me know if there is anything I can do, I am looking forward to reading the essay after last nights discussion. Do we still need some adult play stuff or do we have enough to work with just rearranging the essay per Yvonne's suggestions. I can work on some more quotes if needed, just let me know.

Thanks

Kylie (18/5 at 9.13pm)

Hi guys,

I just got on tonight....OK - I am a bit confused what I need to do now?? I was about to check the ref but looks like that may not need checking - those bits can and prob will get culled. If you need me to do anything please let me know. I am back online now tonight, so will check again soon. Great Yvonne has given suggestions to do more adult stuff - so glad we checked. Thanks Rachel. Please email me or put on here if I can help.

Jen

No prob Ellie, will fix it up. Everyone, I have the template set up with the game and maps in so will just be able to insert the essay once it is done and email tp you all. Thankyou Michelle for working on the essay. Lisa (18/5)

Hi everyone, I just noticed that I did not put the references for the quotes I put on the original game essay that I did there is only a couple:

Vialle, Lysaght & Verenikina, 2005 p306 Educational Psychology 2nd Edition A Woolfolk & K Margetts Jean Piaget - Intellectual Development, n.d. retrieved online from: []

I hope this has not made compiling the info any harder...sorry I should have put it on last week, I just was not sure how much of my draft we would use.

I should be able to get online tomorrow afternoon & all of the evening, so please let me know if there is anything else I can to. Thanks, Ellie

Hi guys

Here is Yvonne's response to my email. I did say we were concerned about the essay and so I guess that is why she has only provided feedback on the essay.

Hi Michelle, Your answer reads well - but - there is too much on childhood play (discussing this was to get ideas). You need to relate to adult play much earlier in the answer. Cheers, Yvonne

I will rework the existing essay according to Yvonne's feedback and post a draft tonight on the wiki for comment. I have found some info to link to Vygotsky but if anyone has anything just post it here.

Cheers Michelle

Hey guys, just put the essays through turn it in- and they are safe. All perfect. Lisa (17/5) Just went to reference the mind maps- put them through turn it in- and they are safe too. Must have put it all in my own words after all

Thanks Lisa, I will email Yvonne now.

Can I get someones opinion on Yvonne's comments either last week or the week before 'Often our play is internalised - but we do play externally also' as I think we need to discuss internalised play in the essay and I would like someone else's understanding of what it means.

Thanks Michelle

Ok Michelle- Have roughly put together a word doc to send to yvonne. If you put that and also the primary mix.pdf from rachel below we should be all set. I haven't formatted or anything- just thrown it together for now. Lisa

I will attach another showing track changes if Jen and michelle could possibly look at comments on some spots unsure if they were references or paraphrases. sorry- jist want ot be sure since they don't take that lightly.

Thanks Rachel, was just going to post asking about changing the pdf. Thankyou. Lisa. Nearly done michelle. 2 more mins lisa

Hey girls, Here is the updated game with the new name. Cheers, Rachel

Hi all,

This is the latest copy with the two changes that I made tonight Leanne

Great work girls

I have read the essay regarding adult play and agree that it does need some editing with tense, etc but so far great job. I didn't want to edit the essay again in case people have printed it off ready for tonight and have made their own notes. My additions or exclusions may just confuse people. However, I have the following input:-

1. 4th paragraph ‘This is supported and discussed by (Hendrick 1990:19), we may need to ask Jen because this is where it ends and then a new sentence is started. Or is it part of the previous sentence????

2. Another quote supporting adult play if needed: Bapiste (2006:online) supports adult play by stating ‘play allows adults to take initiative, make choices among possibilities and act and interact'.

Reference Baptiste, N. 2006//, ‘//Adults need to play, too’, //Early Childhood Educational Journal,// Retrieved 8 May 2010 from []

I will not be able to make second life tonight or chat after, Tuesday is just not good for me. Sorry. Let me know if any further information is required. I can have another look at it after tonight for editing, etc if needs be.

Kylie Armson (17/5 at 3.20pm)

Hi guys,

I have gone through and merged the latest versions of each section of our assessment. I thought that it may be a little easier for tonight so we are only looking at one document and we all have the same information. I have not done any more editing as I thought we would discuss tonight and then do an edit. The mind map and game info. were in PDF format so I could not attach them to this document. I hope that you don't mind me doing this.

Talk to everyone tonight at 8pm in SL, Leanne

Michelle, have just had a look at your draft. Firstly, thankyou for getting it up so quickly. You have done a great job. I did a track-change edit as i was reading it. So will attach below. A couple things that did stand out was that the tense changed a bit throughout (which is prob partly to do with the fact that it was written by 2 separate people). Another was with the referencing. The quotes weren't in inverted commas so I wasn't sure where they started or finished. But I think that was more in the first part of the essay. Anyways, as i was reading i changed some grammar stuff and some wording. Hopefully some of the changes are helpful. But great job Jen and Michelle. Lisa (16/5) - oopps 17/5 as of 3 mins ago. ;-)

Hi all

Here is a draft with the adult play included. I have not edited Jen's section, I thought the essay could be edited as one piece. I have tried to keep the essay heading in the same direction that Jen was going and have made sure I have covered the areas that Yvonne discussed in the SL tutorial a couple of weeks ago. If anyone feels something has been left out that they wanted included, please say so. It has been very hard to find ref material on adult learning so have made best use of what we have. I am happy for any constructive criticism etc or if you just don't like it please say so (nicely of course!!!). I haven't finished the conclusion as I wanted to confirm that the content wouldn't change much before finalising.

Word count is 873 so we are over our limit with the other 2 sections combined. Something to discuss tomorrow night I guess.

See you all in SL tomorrow night.

Michelle (16/5)

Wow Lisa, you certainly have done a great job.

Michelle, I will look at it tomorrow afternoon and hopefully get some comments, etc before your meeting tomorrow night.

I vote for the name of the game to be 'Primary Mix'. I think this is simple and sums up both the game, the age of the children its aged at and the colours being used.

Kylie (16/5)

Ahhh Michelle, I could smother you in kisses. Thankyou so much- was starting to stress. Can't wait to see a draft tomorrow. Leanne- know what you mean about bigpond. It took them weeks to send my new modem at which time I was reliant on my mum's limited gb. I sent a letter of complaint to the CEO of Telstra and got 3 months free. Name hasn't been decided- we can vote tomorrow night. But I am very happy with where the game is at at the moment. Lisa (16/5)

Hi everyone,

I am sorry I have been offline since Sunday afternoon, good old reliable bigpond... Anyway thank you Lisa for editing the colour game doc. I think that the more eyes that go over it the more likely we are to come up with a great final version. The mind map words in context also looks fantastic. It all appears to be coming together. I think the name Primary Mix sounds like a good suggestion, not sure if that has been decided yet or not.

Leanne

Hi all, I was posting the same time as Michelle I think!!, I have a bit of time this morning as was going to look at all the info we already had on adult play to see what I could do, but thanks Michelle!. Lisa the Mind map is fantastic!!! Thanks to Leanne and Lisa for the editing on my essay for the game, it looks really great, I should have you guys go over my other essays for my other subjects!, lol. Cheers, Ellie

Want to know my hourly rate...lol!!!! Lisa

Hi everyone

I haven't been able to log on to the wiki for a couple and have just got up to speed with Jen being sick. I spent quite a bit of time on Friday researching adult play (not overly successfully but I found a bit) so I will try and finish a draft from where Jen left off tonight and post tomorrow before we meet in SL tomorrow night.

Jen - I hope you are feeling better soon.

Cheers Michelle (16/5)

Hey guys, am about to put an updated version of mind map up. As per suggestion i have explained the terms in the stages. I have done it on a second page so there will be the original mm and then this one on the following page. God I hope you all like it cos i had to count the words by hand- ahhhhh!!! Funny thing is- i think i am having a relationship with mind maps. Today i found myself mentally mind mapping what i was going to work on tonight and mind-mapping what i am going to do all day tomorrow. Sad hey. Anyways both mm combined= i lost count a few times = approx 664 words give or take Game explanation seems to be working on about 390. So the 2 are at 1054 approx. We have 1650 words all up with our leeway ﻿. I don't know where the essay is at though to see if it is all going to come together right.... Lisa (15/5)

Leanne, hope you don't feel like I am stepping on your toes by having done this... I have done a track change edit of your doc and will attach below. Hopefully you will find some of the changes helpful. Lisa (15/5)

Hi everyone, Leanne- just looked at draft. It is great. If you don't mind I will do a track change edit tonight... just a few ideas. Rachel- don't stress about doing the essay. You are doing a fantastic job on the game. Thankyou to you, Leanne and Rachel for bringing the game together. Lisa (15/5)

Hey guys,

Jen I hope you are feeling better soon and it's nothing to serious. All my best wishes for you in hospital :-). Leanne you have done a terrific job! Thank you to Ellie and Leanne for all their hard work on the game! Lisa I am a bit pedantic myself lol I tend to over explain everything so let me know how you would like it worded and I will change it, thank you for all your helpful input. I also am a bit snowed under but will try to do some work on Jen's draft before tuesday for you guys. Oh, and Lisa I really liked the name "Mix to Win" or "Primary Mix" if everyone is happy to change the name. Just let me know. Hope everyone is doing well on their assignments, see you all Tuesday.

Cheers, Rachel



** Leanne **
Hi Everyone,

I have done an edit on Ellie's colour game doc. but am having trouble trying to upload a word doc. Can someone please tell me how I attach a word do here and I will put it straight up.

Thanks Leanne

PS. Jen, rest up and I hope that you have a speedy recovery. I know it's not much fun being stuck in a hospital

Hi guys, I have been really really sick. Looks like I am going to be admitted to hospital :( I haven't got my latest unfinished version for you as I have it on my desktop at home. Is someone who has some time able to finish off what I started with the game play?? Yvonne's email I posted and it basically said we use our group etc for the reflections part as I did, and when referring to the references etc use third person. So what I have done so far should be OK.....can someone finish off with the adult part for me please? I think it should only need about another 200 words or so from memory. Thanks guys,

Jen ps I will try to get online on Tues - if I am in hospital, I think they have wireless so I should be able to.

Jen, I hope things arent too serious, get some rest and hope you recover soon. I have some referencing to add etc if anyone needs anything else that I can contribute to, let me know and will do my best...claire 15/5/11

Jen , I hope that you are OK, rest up in Hospital and don't worry I am sure we can all finish up where you were up to. Hope you get better soon, Ellie

Hi Jen, Don't worry about it- just concentrate on getting better. On that note guys, any other time i'd offer to continue on with it but i am already running on 2am bedtimes and 6am wake-up calls and can't possibly take on any more. But hopefully someone can put their hand up soon as we only have a week to go!! Ahhhhhhhhh!! However I am willing to compile the whole assignment together once all the parts are completed. Rachel, if i'm not allowed to apologise then neither are you. ;-) Can i just make one more (pedantic) reccommendation:  Several beakers or test tubes of water (for each student or group to have multiple attempts if needed)  Now is that pedantic or what..........  Lisa (15/5)

Hi again, forgot to add these bits i found that may help with the essay: 'play in the broad sense, including all forms of dream and dreamlike activity as well as the various kinds of play and make-believe' I thought that was interesting with the bit about dreams. 'In play the primary object is to mold reality to the whim of the cognizer, in other words, to assimilate reality to various schemas with little concern for precise accommodation to reality' That i really liked as it is actually talking about piaget's theories. It was from a book called 'The Developmental Psychology of Jean Piaget'. If you use it i will put up the reference then. Lisa (15/5)

Oops me again, having a very forgetful day today. While my daughter was eating lunch i cam up with these:

Mix to win Colour time Colour mix Mix time Colour mix time Primary mix Mix the primaries Lisa (15/5)

Hey Lisa, Sorry obviously having one of those days lol. I have updated it for you let me know if there's anything else. Don't have to say sorry, it all helps :-) Cheers,  Rachel

That looks great Rachel. Here are my few comments: 1. Perhaps we shouldn't specify how many beakers. That way it is not limiting their tries. 2 minutes is a fair while to get more attempts in. So maybe just:

beakers or test tubes of water 2. Just a few spelling things I noticed- pg3 (colour's), pg5 (minuets), pg6 (formal operation= formal operational). Sorry!! But I love it. Great work! Lisa (14/5)Rachel,The game looks really good!Great job!!Ellie

Hey all, I have updated the description of the game to PDF. Please let me know what you think and if you want it changed in any way. Great work Ellie love it so far! I was unsure what to call the game the best I came up with was time colours. Ellie is helping me out with the essay part as you can see. Again let me know if you would like anything changed. Cheers, Rachel

Hi all,
I have put together a very rough draft on linking the game back to Piaget's theory As far as I know the game is yet to be named so I simply called it Colour Game in the essay and we can swap it out when we have come up with a good name for it. I have not done a reference list yet and what I have done so far is about 340 words, so I can always add or cull where it is needed. It is only a very rough draft as I only had a few hours free today, due to crazy kids!, I will keep working on it, if you can all have a look and let me know if we want to add something or take something out it would be a great help. Thanks, Ellie

Hi Ellie,

I have had a read of the colour game doc and think that you have done a great job. There are a few little bits that may need a little editing, nothing major. I know how hard it is with kids running around and wanting your attention so if you are happy for me to I can do an edit tonight when mine go to bed and see what you think. Just let me know.

Regards, Leanne

** H//i Leanne,// ** //** An edit would be great, I would have had someone else look at it for me (usually my hubby) then sleep on it, and then find where I went wrong, we have just a crazy weekend, & I had a couple of hours this morning for some study time so I had to only do a rough draft. **// //** It would be great if you could put some notes down and do some editing, my Husband will be thankfull to not have to read another essay on a subject he knows nothing about, lol. **// //** I think Rachel is working on the explanation of the game, I will check with her & we can put that at the beginning. **// //** Thanks, **// //** Ellie **//

Great starting point Ellie. I think we should explain the game at the start though. And maybe we can start posting some ideas for names for the game. Then we can vote. Will wait to read your version Leanne, then we can go from there. Am working on another updated version of mind map at the moment ( as per discussion in SL) so will hopefully have it up tomorrow night. Great work again Ellie. Lisa (14/5)

Not too sure what happened to my vote I did put it online yesterday afternoon & it now seems to have disappeared!!!!!
I vote option 2 - Rachels good work Rachel.

I have some free time and more than happy help out just let me know what is needed. I will do some more research online also.

Cheers, Ellie

Just realised i hadn't added my input yet. Option 2 seems to be the way we are going then and I think the idea sounds great. Great work Rachel. Can't wait to see a draft. Lisa (12/5) == OK Claire, so we are going with option 2 then? Rach, are you OK to work on the essay part of that? Do you need any references/input etc for it? Let us know what you need to take it to the next level :) Thanks Claire for getting it all happening!! ==

Hi all, FEELING LIKE I have been slack. I know Lisa did great work on the concept map but it was the only thing I could get my head around. Doing this map has helped me gain knowledge. This is my second attempt at group work. the first time was disastrous, this time I have progressed a little further thanks to a group of supporting individuals. Kind regards Christine

I like Rachels idea too, lets go with that. Mine was just a start of the foundation to work on and improve and now we have agreed what the end results should be. Good ideas shared there....It will enhance the discovery learning part that some ppl were worried about......Claire

Hey everyone,

I would like to thank all involved in producing the games. However, I think my vote will go to Option 2 - Rachel. I just think that this is a more simplified version and will not be open to getting 2 colours the same and having problems.

Kylie

HI Everyone, I think I will also go with option 2 - sorry, I thought the deadline was tonight. I know Rach the links etc were just initial so with more work on that area I think it is great.

Jen

Hey guys,

Here is my simple idea for a game. The linking to Piaget's ideas and discovery learning needs more work but you should get the basic idea. Mine is aimed at the original age of 9 cause that's what I developed it on. I have had feedback and input from a primary school teacher on linking to piaget, what 9 year olds are capable of and the game content.

Cheers, Rachel



**Good Evening everyone,**

**Tonight in our group meeting we have decided that we will have 2 options for a game and take a vote - majority will rule as we are having trouble coming to a decision. The game will be aimed at 7 years old - concrete operational.**

__**OPTION 1**__

**Provide students with a list of colours that will need to be mixed using primary colours. The primary colours will be provided however students will need to work out for themselves which of the primary colours are used to make the new colour (discovery learning). The list will contain colours such as green, brown, purple. As the students successfully mix the new colour a star will be placed on their list and they move onto the next colour. The first person to correctly mix all the colours wins.**

__**OPTION 2**__

**Rachel is going to work on a new version of a game and post it up tonight.**

**It was agreed that all votes will need to be in by midnight Thursday. When voting we need to take into consideration that the game can be linked to Piaget. This will then allow us suffient time to come up with a draft to discuss on Tuesday night in SL.**

**Leanne.**

** __To vote for option 1 please add name here__ **

** __To vote for option 2 please add name here__ ** Kylie Armson Ellie Aquilina

Thanks Ellie, will be there tonight :). Lisa, yep, I have left plenty of room for the adult part. But need to leave room for the game reflection also for the people doing the game. It requires reflection and explanation etc also I believe??

I will check with Yvonne, but these are reflections so we are supposed reflect on what we discussed and reflect on it with our learning?? I will confirm with Yvonne before I continue, but I have referred to 2 other friends assignments from EDLT115 over the past 2 years who received HD's and this is how they did it. Same for the game component. I emailed Yvonne briefly to ask about our game but didn't send it to her, her response was below:

The game itself will be fine **providing that the explanation clearly outlines the links to Piaget** - **this written part is the important part of the question.** There is no reason an 'experiment' cannot be concrete operational and it does need to be discovery learning. This is what the group need to flesh out - feel free to copy this to them

See you tonight :) Jen

Hi Ladies, Yes 8.30pm tonight at windworth Cheers, Ellie

Hi Jen, just had a quick read. My initial question is: are we meant to be doing it personal as you have done (e.g. our group) or is it meant to be more essay-based. Sorry- just wasn't sure about that. In regards to the word count you can go a fair bit over as i am only at around 277 words for the concept map so that should give you a lot of leeway. Looking forward to seeing what you do with the adult part which from what yvonne said is where the essay should be mainly focussed around. i think it was 8.30 tonight but don't quote me. Lisa (10/5)

Hi guys, here is the first part of my question...this is the first draft of the child part, with the starting part of the adult part. Trying to aim for the HD range for the rubric....will try to incorprate other areas of the unit into it also, as well as use a few more references from other sources...any more you guys have for adults from different sources would be great. Is it 8.00 or 8.30 tonight??

Jen

Hi Jen,

Just read your post and have just finished reading all of our second life posts as well as the last second life chat from last week. Yvonne says that word limit for q1 should be 650-700 words. Hope that helps.

Kylie

= Has anyone heard from Christine? Is she working with any groups? She emailed a while back and said she would be contributing etc, but I haven't seen her in the chats or on here?? Any idea's? Christine, are you there?????????????hellloooooooooooo lol..... just need to make sure we are all contributing so we all get the marks. Jen =

= Hi Jen, =

To my knowledge Yvonne hasnt seen the game yet. We were thinking the age group to be targeted year 3 which is age 9years. Takes out the infants department which is easier I think to explain games too etc. We chose this game to cover discovery learning...which is science based. I think the chat log is up now to view if you have time to take a quick squiz at. We are also discussing on tues all the drafts for the questions to get it all sorted etc.....so I guess we can change and improve the parts we need too.

Hope that helped, Claire Thanks Claire, I did look at that, but didn't see any mention on the game being developed with those Piaget theories etc. I assumed it must have happened via email etc between the people doing the game. Yep, that is great the game covers Piaget's theory of discovery learning, but I think it also specifically needs to target the categories within Concrete Operational (like on the mind map)????

= Hi Guys, =

Sorry I have been out of action for a few days....hoping to be back to normal after tomorrow evening. Glad I was ahead earlier!! I had a quick look at the game etc after the note about midnight tonight. I haven't been able to check properly sorry :(

I just want to check that this game we can clearly link in the essay part etc the links to the age range. eg Reversibilty, decentration, conservation and concrete logic. In the essay part we will need to discuss why this game was chosen etc and link it directly to these areas...eg why this game works for this specific concrete operational group over eg other areas......are you confident that this game specifically fits those area's which will need to be discussed?? eg...would the same game work in preoperational?? if not why....just thinking about the areas and linking it to Piagets theory exactly, more than what we think kids are capable of etc I think???

I don't think we need to link it to anything in the syllabus etc...as this is to do with Piagets theories....so don't worry about that part I don't think. But we do need to categorically justify reasons for this game and how it links with all the areas within concrete operational with some explanation etc I am pretty sure. I am sure you guys have discussed all that, but as I haven't been around the last few days, just thought I would put my little checks on for you :) (fresh set of eyes)

I PROMISE I will have mine up for you Tues at the latest!! Also.......what word limit should I be aiming for with Q1.....I just want to make sure I don't go over or under, as you guys with the game will need a bit to link up/ explanations etc.

Will be back on tomorrow. Has Yvonne seen the game yet? What did she say?

Jen = GAME UPDATED VERSION = = Still not sure if I have to put the outcomes and indicators etc =

Claire

= This is a basic idea.....im not too good with creating part but I gave it a go.Let me know if you cant see or load it. Ta Claire =

Hi Claire,

This looks great. The only thing that I would suggest would be to make the black sections of the pie chart green. I am not sure that the students would be able to mix black. I think the concept will work much better than a snakes and ladders style game.

Leanne.

**Hi Leanne, **

Ok so I will swap black for green. So the correct colours that the students would have to mix to finish the game would be: (The two colours that have the + sign would be from the board game and dice) <span style="color: #008000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Red + yellow = ORANGE (these colours on the player pie chart) Blue + Yellow = GREEN Red + Green = BROWN Red + White = PINK Red + Blue = PURPLE

I will change it now and send it again.I still havent put the outcomes and indicators for it, do we need it? If so I can write them up from the K-6 Syllabus.I also named it 'colour trivia' just to save it on my USB....if anyone has a better name then my made up one, let me know and I will change it :)

Claire

= HI EVERYONE, I AM ATTACHING CHAT LOG FROM SL TONIGHT BELOW. WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE CHAT AND HAVE SOME CLEAR IDEAS ON WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH GAME. PLEASE CHECK OUT THE IDEAS IN THE GAME AREA AND COMMENT BY MIDNIGHT SUNDAY SO WE CAN START WORKING ON THE GAME. LISA (5/5) = = = = Hi everyone, =

My problem with this was not sure if they are asking for his ideas/terms per stage. Or ideas/terms in his key ideas about children cognitive development. Either way all information are in each table which can be copied/changed and pasted as a PowerPoint. With added info about him if necessary.I hope the map turned out right as I tried to attach a file via word docs. Although I just looked at Jen and or Lisa's and its looks great, so much better than what I did. Hopefully there is something to be used. I will post up game ideas and child hood plays and experiences tomorrow.





Claire, 3/5/11

= Hi Everyone =

We can use this WIKI to post discussions for our assignments. It is probably best to create different folders (I have just created each of our questions as a discussion at this stage), to post information on for each question. This will allow people who cannot participate in chat etc, to be able to contribute their ideas and input on the questions. Once we get sorted, we can set up a timeline so that we can all ensure our parts are in in time.

This should be fun

Jen

Great idea Jen. I used a wiki for group work in EDIT124 and it went really smoothly. It was easy to keep track of, kept everything together... and was just all-round awesome. Thanks again. Lisa. (21/4) Oh, and I used RSS feeds for the page so I wouldn't have to keep checking to see if the page had been changed.

Here is the link for my ppt for Piaget's Cognitive Development not sure if it works!! It is a little messy - but I didn't want to make it all look too pretty as it is just for you to use as a reference :-) If you would like me to do something more etc, just let me know :-)

Thanks Jen- that was great. I have done up a draft in Inspiration which i will also have to attach here. So please let me know what you think so far (good or bad). I have really expanded on the stage theory to make it easier to link the game back in. Lisa (3/5) P.s. It still needs a fair bit of formatting...

<span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">

<span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Just realised that i don't think i saved it in compatibility mode first so let me know if anyone can't open it. Lisa (3/5) <span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Hi Lisa, that is looking great. I will have a closer look at the parts etc, but looks great - additional info excellent also. :)

<span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Hi everyone, I have attached a revised concept map. I worked on it after listening to her advice in SL last night and then emailed it to Yvonne to see if it was on the right track. Her reply was: It is looking good – you have the schema and also the stages. Well done. I would question having equilibrium before disequilibrium in the flow. You could also mention dissonance. <span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">﻿I have just finished revising again and have emailed it to her again so will let you know what she says once i hear back. Lisa (4/5) <span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">

<span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Ok, so have heard back from Yvonne and she said she can't give anymore feedback than that. So it is up to if everyone is happy with it or not now. So please all provide feedback. <span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Lisa (4/5)

<span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Hi Lisa, <span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">You have put so much work into this, it is great. I haven't gone into the details yet. Great work....when I have time, I will go into each detail with the arrows directions etc etc as state mentioned in SL. Thanks for all your work on this, you have done a great job :) Jen

<span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Thanks Jen, <span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">So have just counted all the words- you would think that they would put a word count into the program. Oh well. So it is about __277__ words- which would also give more leeway for essay for q1 if you want it. <span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Chat tonight, <span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Lisa <span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">(5/5)

<span style="color: #008000; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Great work Lisa, <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">I am slowly but surely getting my head around this stuff...yours and Jen's efforts are very appreciated. Will chat tonight. Thanks again Christine.



Here are a couple of different game board ideas that I got from a teachers resource website. We might be able to adapt one of these for our game.

Michelle 5/5